How do I get the latest gaim (0.7) in Sid?

Paul Mackinney paul@mackinney.net
Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:02:45 -0700


Hereon declaimed:
> --- Tim Freeman <tim@fungible.com> wrote:
> > From: Hereon <hereon2003@yahoo.com>
> > >When, as root, i do apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; it lists gaim as a
> > >package held back.
> > >When I run dselect, it shows the latest available version of gaim as
> > 0.68-1. 
> > 
> > When I get held back packages, I say something like
> > 
> >    apt-get install gaim
> > 
> > and it tells me why it's held back, or sometimes it feels that
> > it has the authority to go ahead and solve the problem for me by
> > installing some other packages and then upgrade the one I asked for.
> > 
> > The other requirement, of course, is that you say something like this
> > in /etc/apt/preferences:
> > 
> >    Package: gaim
> >    Pin: release a=unstable
> >    Pin-Priority: 1500
> > 
> > (except don't have any leading whitespace).
> 
> 1) Thanks, this worked exactly as you said.  It installed gaim 0.70.  :)
> 
> 2) Aside: Unfortunately, even though I verified it is indeed .70 that is
> running, I still can't log into YM (although I still _can_ login to AIM)).
> 
> 3) After apt-get installed it, I ran dselect, and it now shows the avail
> version as 0.70, rather than the older (0.68) version that showed just before
> I did the apt-get install.  
> 
> That is strange.  Anyone know why dselect wouldn't correctly show the actual
> version available until _after_ I did the apt-get install?  
> 
> (Note: I didn't do "update" _within_ dselect.  I was assuming it used the
> results of the apt-get update I'd just done before starting dselect.)
> 
I *believe* that both must be updated, not sure where I read that.

> (I'm wondering if I've got something misconfigured, which would have caused
> that, or is this a bug?)  (I'm 99% sure that I have a Sid with no
> modifications done to any dselect related files, just a plain vanilla Sid
> install.)
> 
> 4) Why did I need the preferences file telling it to prefer unstable, if I'm
> merely running a plain Sid (ie unstable) system?  
> 
You shouldn't. Does your sources.list file reference any distro besides
unstable?

> 5) Why did my original apt-get upgrade fail to assert that it would upgrade
> gaim, saying instead that gaim would be held back?  Is this likely a bug
> someplace?  (& thus it might be a good idea to submit a bug report on it?)
Despite the odd behaviors, I sort of doubt that this is a bug because I
don't hear lots of people complaining about it. Some thoughts:

- After switching to unstable, did you run apt-get with the
	'dist-upgrade' argument? This frequently fixes issues with packages
	that are held back for me, and is pretty much mandatory when
	upgrading/downgrading.

- Sometimes, especially after upgrading lots of packages, I find that I
	have to run apt-get several times before everything gets installed.

HTH, PM
-- 
Paul Mackinney
paul@mackinney.net