Need advocate

[Jonathan Walther]

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I disagree David.  I never saw the points Ivan mentions in the
documentation either.  When I want to know how to do NMU,
I hopped on IRC and asked.  Or just attempted the NMU myself
and if it got rejected, c'est la vie.  The whole NMU thing is
learned by example, by watching how it is actually done.

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I am working to subvert from within ...
umm ...  by writing shoddy code ... and
charging too much.

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, David Schleef wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 05:24:43PM -0700, Michael S. Fischer wrote:
> > "During the release freeze (see Uploading to frozen, Section 6.2.2.1),
> > NMUs which fix serious or higher severity bugs are encouraged and
> > accepted."
>
> 1) Woody is not frozen.
> 2) important < serious
>
> > "Bug fixes to unstable by non-maintainers are also acceptable..."
>
> "...but only as a last resort or with permission."
>
> > Please don't talk down to me, Ivan.  I'm not stupid.  I've read the
> > documentation.
>
> I'll talk down to you, because you are making it repeatedly clear
> that you _haven't_ read the documentation.
>
> > And what's with the collective attitude about bringing new developers
> > aboard?
>
> Debian has a certain set of customs that new developers need to
> get used to before they fit in.  Some learn quickly, others do
> not.  Some new developers seem to have the attitude "I'm going
> to change the world, so move out of my way."  I don't know any
> group where that attitude fits in.

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