From acohen36 at linuxwaves.com Thu Sep 15 13:19:50 2016 From: acohen36 at linuxwaves.com (GoOSSBears) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:19:50 -0700 Subject: Vivaldi browser for Debian/Ubuntu Message-ID: <20160915131950.76078056@m0087793.ppops.net> Besides web browsers Firefox, Chrom[e]|[ium], Dillo, and a few others, there is now an evolved, post-1.0 version of the Vivaldi browser[1] available for download and use for Debian/Ubuntu. Am using this now as I write this email. Apparently[2], members of the current Vivaldi team[3] previously involved with developing the Opera browser[4] didn't like the direction Opera was going following this Summer's $$ 1/2 Billion+ acquisition by a Chinese business consortium[5]. Bay Area-local Cupertino Tatsuki Tomita[6] co-founded Vivaldi and is the current COO. Vivaldi Stable 1.4.x for Debian/Ubuntu is available as a downloadable 32bit or 64bit .deb file at [7] and instructions for installation are at [8] and here: ~~~~~~~~ quoting ~~~~~~~~ *How to install Vivaldi Stable on 32 bit systems using deb packages:* $ wget https://vivaldi.com/download/stable/vivaldi-stable_1.0.435.40-1_i386.deb -O vivaldi-stable_i386.deb $ sudo dpkg -i vivaldi-stable_i386.deb *How to install Vivaldi Stable on 64 bit systems using deb packages:* $ wget https://vivaldi.com/download/stable/vivaldi-stable_1.0.435.40-1_amd64.deb -O vivaldi-stable_amd64.deb $ sudo dpkg -i vivaldi-stable_amd64.deb ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Good help on using Vivaldi is thru its Knowledgebase at [09]. Mostly glowing reviews of Vivaldi at its own [10] links, and slightly less glowing Vivaldi reviews at [11] and [12]. -A References =========== [01]https://vivaldi.com [02]https://vivaldi.com/story [03]https://vivaldi.com/team [04]https://wiki.debian.org/Opera [05]https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/18/opera-browser-sold-to-a-chinese-consortium-for-600-million / [06]https://twitter.com/tatsukit/ [07]https://vivaldi.com/download [08]http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-vivaldi-stable-on-ubuntu/ [09]https://help.vivaldi.com/knowledgebase/ [10]https://vivaldi.com/press/coverage/ [11]http://www.pcworld.com/article/3052560/browsers/vivaldi-browser-review-powerful-features-outshine-slightly-sluggish-performance.html [12]http://www.trustedreviews.com/vivaldi-review =========== -- Go Open Source Software Bears! _____________________________________________________________ Get your FREE, LinuxWaves.com Email Now! --> http://www.LinuxWaves.com Join Linux Discussions! --> http://Community.LinuxWaves.com From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Sep 15 13:38:55 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:55 -0700 Subject: Vivaldi browser for Debian/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20160915131950.76078056@m0087793.ppops.net> References: <20160915131950.76078056@m0087793.ppops.net> Message-ID: <20160915203855.GD900@linuxmafia.com> Quoting GoOSSBears (acohen36 at linuxwaves.com): > Besides web browsers Firefox, Chrom[e]|[ium], Dillo, and a few others, > there is now an evolved, post-1.0 version of the Vivaldi browser[1] > available for download and use for Debian/Ubuntu. Am using this now as > I write this email. Which, you probably should have mentioned, is _proprietary_ software. It's a good idea to mention in open source circles when you are recommending a proprietary program. I list all currently available graphical Web browsers for Linux at http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/kicking.html#linuxbrowser . (Please advise if I've missed any. Note that I'm deliberately disregarding codebases that have been orphaned/discontinued for too long to be safe: Flock, Galeon.) From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Fri Sep 16 03:37:09 2016 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 03:37:09 -0700 Subject: Vivaldi browser for Debian/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20160915203855.GD900@linuxmafia.com> References: <20160915131950.76078056@m0087793.ppops.net> <20160915203855.GD900@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20160916033709.18765kqueb43ltgc@webmail.rawbw.com> > From: "Rick Moen" > Subject: Re: Vivaldi browser for Debian/Ubuntu > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:38:55 -0700 > Quoting GoOSSBears (acohen36 at linuxwaves.com): > >> Besides web browsers Firefox, Chrom[e]|[ium], Dillo, and a few others, >> there is now an evolved, post-1.0 version of the Vivaldi browser[1] >> available for download and use for Debian/Ubuntu. Am using this now as >> I write this email. > > Which, you probably should have mentioned, is _proprietary_ software. Ah yes, not to mention also, it's not in Debian main, nor contrib, nor even non-free ... at least as far as I can tell from my quick searches. So, also, all the potential hazards of using software from outside of ones OS distribution may fully apply. Doesn't mean there aren't cases where one may want to venture outside of such ... but chose wisely and carefully. From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Sep 16 14:03:34 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:03:34 -0700 Subject: Vivaldi browser for Debian/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20160916033709.18765kqueb43ltgc@webmail.rawbw.com> References: <20160915131950.76078056@m0087793.ppops.net> <20160915203855.GD900@linuxmafia.com> <20160916033709.18765kqueb43ltgc@webmail.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20160916210333.GF900@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu): > Ah yes, not to mention also, it's not in Debian main, nor contrib, nor > even non-free ... at least as far as I can tell from my quick > searches. > > So, also, all the potential hazards of using software from outside of > ones OS distribution may fully apply. > > Doesn't mean there aren't cases where one may want to venture outside > of such ... but chose wisely and carefully. There certainly have been proprietary Web browsers available via Debian's non-free collection. I'm pretty sure I correctly remember that Netscape Communicator and Netscape Navigator had Debian packages. The prerequisites are (1) copyright-owner permissions sufficient to permit hosting and redistribution, (2) a way to ensure that the resulting package complies with Debian Policy, and (3) a Debian developer willing to go to significant trouble for a codebase that's not even open source. I've frequently been impressed at the inventiveness of Debian developers in working around upstream restrictions, e.g., any number of *-installer open source packages that pull down an upstream proprietary binary-only codebase from the one special-snowflake place on the Internet permitted to host it, perform local edits to make it Policy-compliant, and install it. The old qmail-src package was also amazing that way: It started with the proprietary qmail-1.03 source tarball that was (then) the most practical thing to distribute, applied local patches to make qmail FHS-compliant, compiled it, made a .deb, and installed that. -- Cheers, "We reject: kings, presidents and voting. Rick Moen We believe in: rough consensus and running code." rick at linuxmafia.com -- Dave Clark, IETF (unofficial motto) McQ! (4x80) From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Mon Sep 19 08:46:49 2016 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 08:46:49 -0700 Subject: BALUG: TOMORROW: 2016-09-20: letsencrypt.org/SSL/TLS dicussion; 2016-10-18: Fred Moyer - Better service monitoring through histograms; & other BALUG News Message-ID: <20160919084649.644111ndwzvqmeeo@webmail.rawbw.com> BALUG: TOMORROW: 2016-09-20: letsencrypt.org/SSL/TLS dicussion; 2016-10-18: Fred Moyer - Better service monitoring through histograms; & other BALUG News ------------------------------ items, details further below: BALUG meeting TOMORROW Tu 2016-09-20: letsencrypt.org/SSL/TLS dicussion BALUG meeting Tu 2016-10-18: Fred Moyer - Better service monitoring through histograms giveaways (Books & other titles, CDs/DVDs, ...) Upcoming BALUG list changes?! help BALUG! :-) - volunteering, venue, ... Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/BALUG_org ------------------------------ For our 2016-09-20 BALUG meeting: Discussion Topic: We do have some suggested discussion topics for this meeting: o letsencrypt.org[1] and SSL/TLS[2] certificates "Of course" that doesn't mean we're limited to the above, but expect we'll probably be at least touching upon those. Feel free also to bring your own topics/suggestions to meeting, and/or suggest for upcoming meetings. So, come meet with us and enjoy interesting Linux, etc. discussion. Bring questions, answers, interesting stuff to share, learn stuff, hear and share cool interesting stories and meet cool and interesting people! 1. https://letsencrypt.org/ 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security rsvp at balug.org **Why RSVP??** Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help BALUG and our venue plan for the meeting and accommodations, so please let us know. 6:30pm Tuesday, September 20th, 2016 2016-09-20 Henry's Hunan Restaurant 110 Natoma St. (between 2nd & New Montgomery) San Francisco, CA 94105-3704 1-415-546-4999 http://www.henryshunanrestaurant.com/ Easy Transit/Parking Access: short walk from BART, MUNI, parking Trip planning: http://www.511.org/ Delicious Hunan cuisine and reasonably priced. Meeting Details... Cost/Dining: The meetings are always free, but dinner is not (unless you are our guest speaker, in which case we also treat you to dinner). For Henry's Hunan Restaurant, if folks are agreeable, we'll share and dine "family" style, and split up the costs, and typical cost per person including tax and tip (but not including beverages beyond complementary tea) would be in the $13.00 to $17.50 range, and commonly around $15.00 to $16.50. Cash may be preferred to ease splitting up the check. One can also specifically order the dish(es) one needs/prefers (e.g. for dietary considerations) - and we also commonly order some dish(es) that may meet various dietary considerations) (e.g. vegetarian, non-pork, ...). Please arrive by 7:00 P.M., we expect to order entrees at that time, and may order appetizer(s) and/or soup(s) anytime after 6:30 P.M. ------------------------------ For our 2016-10-18 BALUG meeting: Fred Moyer - Better service monitoring through histograms Fred Moyer will introduce us to statistical based service monitoring. If you've used something like Nagios[1], Graphite[2], or Zabbix[3] to monitor your systems, you're probably familiar with threshold based alerting. Specifically, that it often results in you waking up in the middle of the night for false positives. This talk will show you how to implement quantile based service monitoring with histograms, so that you can understand how your service is actually doing, rather than just guessing based on metric averages. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagios 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_(software) 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabbix ------------------------------ We typically have various giveaway items at BALUG meetings. We'll likely have at least the below plus additional items. Books and other titles! have a look/read here: https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:books_and_publications CDs/DVDs/ISOs, etc. - have a peek here: http://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:cds_and_images_etc We may also be able to "burn" images per request or copy to USB flash, etc. Donations of blank or +-RW media, USB flash, or funding thereof, also appreciated. See the above URL for details (and the inventory (qty.) of what we specifically have "burned" and available on-hand does also frequently change). ------------------------------ Upcoming BALUG list changes?! Yes, for the past many years, much of BALUG, including our lists, has been and is still presently hosted on DreamHost.com. We will be changing that in the not-too-horribly-distant-future. (primary volunteer on this has been buried under some other stuff to attend to, so taking a bit longer.) We'll update on status when that's about to change and when it does change. We'll provide more details as we approach and go through that transition, and we'll make it as painless as feasible. ------------------------------ help BALUG! :-) - volunteering, venue ... You can do useful and cool stuff volunteering to help BALUG, e.g. following up on many leads for possible venue, among many other possibilities. Quite a variety of opportunities to help BALUG. Come talk to us at a meeting and/or drop us a note at: balug-contact at balug.org These opportunities may include, among other possibilities: o venue arrangement (e.g. followup on potential leads on-site coordination/preparations), see also: http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2014-July/001504.html o chief/assistant cat herder o assist on speaker coordination/procurement, etc. o assist on publicity o Linux Systems Administration (e.g. do/assist/learn, with/under some quite experienced and skilled Linux systems administrator(s)). o webmaster, assistant webmaster, designer, graphic artist o archivist/history/retrieval/etc. o and other various/miscellaneous tasks BALUG would like to be doing (also feel free to suggest ideas!) ------------------------------ Twitter - you can also follow BALUG on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/BALUG_org ------------------------------ Feedback on our publicity/announcements (e.g. contacts or lists where we should get our information out that we're not presently reaching, or things we should do differently): publicity-feedback at balug.org ------------------------------