From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Fri Jan 1 11:36:04 2016 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 11:36:04 -0800 Subject: [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] Re: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) will be in SF between 3 Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) In-Reply-To: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> References: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> Message-ID: <20160101113604.213438s5ap044b28@webmail.rawbw.com> [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f), I may suggest ... BALUG doesn't meet in the time frame you'll be in San Francisco (SF) (next BALUG meeting is 2016-01-19), however ... There's Bay Area Debian (BAD) http://bad.debian.net/ It also doesn't meet in the time frame you'll be in SF, however it's not unprecedented for visiting Debian folks to post on the list there (need to be subscribed to that list first) to have an in-formal Debian get together (not an "official" BAD meeting). There are also various [L]UG meeting in the time frame you'll be in SF, that are in, or potentially reasonably close enough, to SF. E.g. there's: 2016-01-03 San Francisco Linux Users Group (SF-LUG) http://www.sf-lug.org/ And in Berkeley we have (very reachable from SF via BART): 2016-01-07 Berkeley Unix User Group (BUUG) http://www.buug.org/ 2016-01-10 Berkeley Linux Users Group (BerkeleyLUG) http://berkeleylug.com/meetings/ For keysignings, BAD is probably the group that does more keysignings than any other in the San Francisco Bay Area, but to bring in other folks that may be particularly interested in keysigning, may want to also mention with the relevant lists/resources, e.g.: http://zer0.org/mailman/listinfo/ba-keysign/ http://biglumber.com/ For more information/lists on various Debian / Linux / Open Source and related events in the San Francisco Bay Area, one may want to have a look at these listings (also generally good to check the site and/or list for the particular group/event - some occasionally reschedule or skip some meetings or go dormant - and no activity on list/site doesn't necessarily mean the group is inactive) SF Bay Area Open Source/Linux Events (Google calendar) https://goo.gl/b9WY5k Bay Area Linux Events (BALE) http://linuxmafia.com/bale/ > From: "0xcabba9e5 (via Twitter)" > Subject: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) mentioned you in conversation on Twitter! > Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:46:57 +0000 > ** Twitter > 0xcabba9e5 mentioned you. > > -------------------- > Dec 23 > 0xcabba9e5 > @0x1f1f > > @BALUG_org Anything planned in January? I will be in SF between 3 > Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Fri Jan 1 11:36:04 2016 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 11:36:04 -0800 Subject: [BALUG-Talk] [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] Re: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) will be in SF between 3 Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) In-Reply-To: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> References: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> Message-ID: <20160101113604.213438s5ap044b28@webmail.rawbw.com> [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f), I may suggest ... BALUG doesn't meet in the time frame you'll be in San Francisco (SF) (next BALUG meeting is 2016-01-19), however ... There's Bay Area Debian (BAD) http://bad.debian.net/ It also doesn't meet in the time frame you'll be in SF, however it's not unprecedented for visiting Debian folks to post on the list there (need to be subscribed to that list first) to have an in-formal Debian get together (not an "official" BAD meeting). There are also various [L]UG meeting in the time frame you'll be in SF, that are in, or potentially reasonably close enough, to SF. E.g. there's: 2016-01-03 San Francisco Linux Users Group (SF-LUG) http://www.sf-lug.org/ And in Berkeley we have (very reachable from SF via BART): 2016-01-07 Berkeley Unix User Group (BUUG) http://www.buug.org/ 2016-01-10 Berkeley Linux Users Group (BerkeleyLUG) http://berkeleylug.com/meetings/ For keysignings, BAD is probably the group that does more keysignings than any other in the San Francisco Bay Area, but to bring in other folks that may be particularly interested in keysigning, may want to also mention with the relevant lists/resources, e.g.: http://zer0.org/mailman/listinfo/ba-keysign/ http://biglumber.com/ For more information/lists on various Debian / Linux / Open Source and related events in the San Francisco Bay Area, one may want to have a look at these listings (also generally good to check the site and/or list for the particular group/event - some occasionally reschedule or skip some meetings or go dormant - and no activity on list/site doesn't necessarily mean the group is inactive) SF Bay Area Open Source/Linux Events (Google calendar) https://goo.gl/b9WY5k Bay Area Linux Events (BALE) http://linuxmafia.com/bale/ > From: "0xcabba9e5 (via Twitter)" > Subject: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) mentioned you in conversation on Twitter! > Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:46:57 +0000 > ** Twitter > 0xcabba9e5 mentioned you. > > -------------------- > Dec 23 > 0xcabba9e5 > @0x1f1f > > @BALUG_org Anything planned in January? I will be in SF between 3 > Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) _______________________________________________ BALUG-Talk mailing list BALUG-Talk at lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Jan 1 21:36:26 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 21:36:26 -0800 Subject: [BALUG-Talk] [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] Re: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) will be in SF between 3 Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) In-Reply-To: References: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> <20160101113604.213438s5ap044b28@webmail.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Todd Hawley (celticdm at gmail.com): > As I've mentioned to Michael, the Linux Noisebridge events listed on the SF > Bay Area Open Source/Linux Events calendar apparently are not going on > anymore. I have to wonder how often that calendar gets updated. Bill Ward created that Google Calendar for I-have-no-clear-idea reasons. Some group of Google users all have edit access, but I'm not sure who they are. (/me belatedly sees Michael Paoli's comment, waves.) In the NON-outsourced-to-Google category, BALE's (http://linuxmafia.com/bale/) schema, Python scripts, & PHP plumbing are free software. http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/network/autobale-1.0.tar.gz archive.org's earliest BALE snapshot is that of January 26, 1998, but ISTR it was online a year or two before that. FWIW, I went to 'SF-LUG Weekly Linux Discussion Group' at Noisebridge twice: Try #1: Two guys were poking at an obscure embedded Linux device that impersonates an existing wifi WAP and intercepts user traffic. They asked me how it worked. Try #2: I arrived, nobody from Linux Discussion Group was there. They later explained they'd 'quit early' (almost immediately) leaving no clues for anyone arriving after. Happily, some folks had better encounters: http://matthewpetty.com/2013/03/noisebridge-linux/ From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Jan 1 21:36:26 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 21:36:26 -0800 Subject: [BALUG-Talk] [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] Re: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) will be in SF between 3 Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) In-Reply-To: References: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> <20160101113604.213438s5ap044b28@webmail.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Todd Hawley (celticdm at gmail.com): > As I've mentioned to Michael, the Linux Noisebridge events listed on the SF > Bay Area Open Source/Linux Events calendar apparently are not going on > anymore. I have to wonder how often that calendar gets updated. Bill Ward created that Google Calendar for I-have-no-clear-idea reasons. Some group of Google users all have edit access, but I'm not sure who they are. (/me belatedly sees Michael Paoli's comment, waves.) In the NON-outsourced-to-Google category, BALE's (http://linuxmafia.com/bale/) schema, Python scripts, & PHP plumbing are free software. http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/network/autobale-1.0.tar.gz archive.org's earliest BALE snapshot is that of January 26, 1998, but ISTR it was online a year or two before that. FWIW, I went to 'SF-LUG Weekly Linux Discussion Group' at Noisebridge twice: Try #1: Two guys were poking at an obscure embedded Linux device that impersonates an existing wifi WAP and intercepts user traffic. They asked me how it worked. Try #2: I arrived, nobody from Linux Discussion Group was there. They later explained they'd 'quit early' (almost immediately) leaving no clues for anyone arriving after. Happily, some folks had better encounters: http://matthewpetty.com/2013/03/noisebridge-linux/ _______________________________________________ BALUG-Talk mailing list BALUG-Talk at lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Jan 2 02:27:34 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 02:27:34 -0800 Subject: [BALUG-Talk] [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] Re: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) will be in SF between 3 Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) In-Reply-To: <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> References: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> <20160101113604.213438s5ap044b28@webmail.rawbw.com> <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20160102102734.GA7195@linuxmafia.com> I wrote: [The 'SF Bay Area Open Source/Linux Events calendar':] > Bill Ward created that Google Calendar for I-have-no-clear-idea reasons. > Some group of Google users all have edit access, but I'm not sure who > they are. (/me belatedly sees Michael Paoli's comment, waves.) Casting my mind back, I _think_ Bill the ability to have numerous people have access for adding / deleting / changing events and groups. I did not agree with this concerning BALE (http://linuxmafia.com/bale/), because it's _my_ calendar, that I created and maintain using my criteria for my own purposes.[1] However, I was delighted to offer Bill, instead, absolutely everything he needed to run another instance of BALE's codebase ('autobale') anywhere _else_ he wanted. As in, it's open source, dude. If you don't like the way I run it on linuxmafia.com, you're welcome to run one of your own somewhere else. All you need is a throwaway cruddy Web server and a static IP. For some reason, Bill didn't want to use open source on community-owned-and-operated Linux servers: Instead, he decided to sharecrop for Google on its proprietary SaaS servers. And that, to this day, is what the 'SF Bay Area Open Source/Linux Events calendar'[2] is. Anyway, autobale's available for anyone, and should run just about anywhere. /usr/bin/php5 is used to generate the index.html file (via automake), but any HTTPd is fine, and the HTTPd doesn't need PHP support. A Python script, run via crontab on the first of each month, populates a new months' events (in MySQL) from a eventtemplate table, therfore Python and MySQL are required. MySQL is actually overkill. There's no reason it shouldn't be fine on Drizzle, and of course also MariaDB. Personally, I think running a calendar of open source / Linux events on some corporation's outsourced proprietary hosted software is excessive irony and more than a bit pathetic, suggesting a lack of faith in open source. But you be the judge. (And, oh, it's trivial to permit numerous people edit access to an autobale instance. Just use something like Adminer, https://www.adminer.org -- or, if you have terrible taste in software, its inferior competitor phpmyadmin.) [1] Back around 1997, Bay Area LUG Web sites were so badly maintained and so uniformly furnished only with obsolete 'upcoming meeting' contents that, out of exasperation, I hand-crafted in vi a calendar Web page of upcoming Bay Area Linux and similar events in date order, solely so *I* would know when the next [whatever] meeting would be. I thus originally created the page solely for an audience of one, me. I didn't bother to mention it to anyone, but within about a month was astonished to hear that Linux users all over the Bay Area were relying on it instead of on LUG Web sites. Three years later with my wife's help on the Python and MySQL details, I converted it to a templated and semi-automated design instead of maintaining it in vi. [2] For the first couple of years, Bill used a name that was troublesomely similar to that of Bay Area Linux Events, creating considerable confusion. I thus asked him to please rename it, and to my lasting gratitude he did so. From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Jan 2 02:27:34 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 02:27:34 -0800 Subject: [BALUG-Talk] [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] Re: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) will be in SF between 3 Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) In-Reply-To: <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> References: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> <20160101113604.213438s5ap044b28@webmail.rawbw.com> <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20160102102734.GA7195@linuxmafia.com> I wrote: [The 'SF Bay Area Open Source/Linux Events calendar':] > Bill Ward created that Google Calendar for I-have-no-clear-idea reasons. > Some group of Google users all have edit access, but I'm not sure who > they are. (/me belatedly sees Michael Paoli's comment, waves.) Casting my mind back, I _think_ Bill the ability to have numerous people have access for adding / deleting / changing events and groups. I did not agree with this concerning BALE (http://linuxmafia.com/bale/), because it's _my_ calendar, that I created and maintain using my criteria for my own purposes.[1] However, I was delighted to offer Bill, instead, absolutely everything he needed to run another instance of BALE's codebase ('autobale') anywhere _else_ he wanted. As in, it's open source, dude. If you don't like the way I run it on linuxmafia.com, you're welcome to run one of your own somewhere else. All you need is a throwaway cruddy Web server and a static IP. For some reason, Bill didn't want to use open source on community-owned-and-operated Linux servers: Instead, he decided to sharecrop for Google on its proprietary SaaS servers. And that, to this day, is what the 'SF Bay Area Open Source/Linux Events calendar'[2] is. Anyway, autobale's available for anyone, and should run just about anywhere. /usr/bin/php5 is used to generate the index.html file (via automake), but any HTTPd is fine, and the HTTPd doesn't need PHP support. A Python script, run via crontab on the first of each month, populates a new months' events (in MySQL) from a eventtemplate table, therfore Python and MySQL are required. MySQL is actually overkill. There's no reason it shouldn't be fine on Drizzle, and of course also MariaDB. Personally, I think running a calendar of open source / Linux events on some corporation's outsourced proprietary hosted software is excessive irony and more than a bit pathetic, suggesting a lack of faith in open source. But you be the judge. (And, oh, it's trivial to permit numerous people edit access to an autobale instance. Just use something like Adminer, https://www.adminer.org -- or, if you have terrible taste in software, its inferior competitor phpmyadmin.) [1] Back around 1997, Bay Area LUG Web sites were so badly maintained and so uniformly furnished only with obsolete 'upcoming meeting' contents that, out of exasperation, I hand-crafted in vi a calendar Web page of upcoming Bay Area Linux and similar events in date order, solely so *I* would know when the next [whatever] meeting would be. I thus originally created the page solely for an audience of one, me. I didn't bother to mention it to anyone, but within about a month was astonished to hear that Linux users all over the Bay Area were relying on it instead of on LUG Web sites. Three years later with my wife's help on the Python and MySQL details, I converted it to a templated and semi-automated design instead of maintaining it in vi. [2] For the first couple of years, Bill used a name that was troublesomely similar to that of Bay Area Linux Events, creating considerable confusion. I thus asked him to please rename it, and to my lasting gratitude he did so. _______________________________________________ BALUG-Talk mailing list BALUG-Talk at lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Jan 2 04:08:32 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 04:08:32 -0800 Subject: [BALUG-Talk] [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] Re: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) will be in SF between 3 Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) In-Reply-To: <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> References: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> <20160101113604.213438s5ap044b28@webmail.rawbw.com> <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20160102120832.GA8791@linuxmafia.com> Oh, hey: I also wanted to give kudos to LUGOD of Davis for its bespoke calendar code on its Web site: http://www.lugod.org/ It's extremely good looking, and someone does a damned good job keeping the contents accurate. I asked LUGOD once if the code were available, and did not get a clear answer (but these things happpen). Anyway, really good job, people! From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Jan 2 04:08:32 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 04:08:32 -0800 Subject: [BALUG-Talk] [ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO] Re: 0xcabba9e5 (@0x1f1f) will be in SF between 3 Jan - 12 Jan and can meet/sign key (for inner Debian love) :) In-Reply-To: <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> References: <95.94.07999.1715A765@twitter.com> <20160101113604.213438s5ap044b28@webmail.rawbw.com> <20160102053626.GG27726@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20160102120832.GA8791@linuxmafia.com> Oh, hey: I also wanted to give kudos to LUGOD of Davis for its bespoke calendar code on its Web site: http://www.lugod.org/ It's extremely good looking, and someone does a damned good job keeping the contents accurate. I asked LUGOD once if the code were available, and did not get a clear answer (but these things happpen). Anyway, really good job, people! _______________________________________________ BALUG-Talk mailing list BALUG-Talk at lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org From acohen36 at linuxwaves.com Sun Jan 3 11:43:03 2016 From: acohen36 at linuxwaves.com (GoOSSBears) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 11:43:03 -0800 Subject: Recap of Debian and F/OSS-related Deaths Message-ID: <20160103114303.975442E0@m0087797.ppops.net> Am currently at Cafe Enchante for the 1st SF-LUG meetup[01] of the year; Bobby S, Daniel G, John, Ken and maestro are around as well. Have read the caution cross-posted by Michael P and Rick M to the BAD thread shouted as 'ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO...'[02], so am posting this particular message here, as is hopefully most appropriate. Recap of Debian and F/OSS-related Deaths A. Ian Murdock, R.I.P.! Rick M previously wrote at [03] concerning Ian M's death: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ quoting ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subject: Re: Vale, Ian Murdock (1973-04-28 ??? 2015-12-28) Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already. Bradley M. Kuhn published an eloquent and elegaic 'Requiem for Ian Murdock' on his blog at http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2015/12/30/ian-murdock.html. As it is CC BY-SA 3.0 US licensed, I'm posting it here. Requiem for Ian Murdock Wednesday 30 December 2015 by Bradley M. Kuhn ... ... RM note: Brad also invites comment at https://identi.ca/bkuhn/note/EXXzcb0hT6Ob43gOcYaQYA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A duplication of Bradley K's 'Requiem for Ian Murdock' is also posted at [04], and that latter link requests that any comments on the entry are to be emailed to info at sfconservancy dot org A pair of recent news stories on Ian M's death are at [05] and [06]. Those of you participating in past BAD events are likely to recall that Ian M spoke in person at Songbird's Corporate Office on September 16th, 2008[07]. I can attest that Ian M's presentation was certainly very-well attended by many Debian and F/OSS people, having attended this myself. IIRC and IMHO, during the general time-period of Ian M's speech here in the Bay Area, Debian [GNU]/Linux was much less Ubuntified (~= _heavily_ Ubuntu-influenced by Canonical Ltd and its official/unofficial local "community" advocates at LUGs, installfests, blogs,... etc) than afterwards up to the present. B. Eric P Scott (a.k.a. "EPS"), R.I.P. It was a bit less than one year ago that news of Eric S's death came to us[08][09]. While Eric S wasn't as Internationally renown as was Ian M, his death (Eric's) was in a certain sense felt much greater, as IMHO he was _personally_ known to a great many of us local Bay Area Debian and F/OSS people. C. Aaron Swartz, R.I.P. Again, the Winter Blues(!!) -- It was a bit less than three years ago, on January 11th, 2013, that noted hacker, information activist and Reddit cofounder Aaron S committed suicide[10][11]. While Aaron S did not get directly involved with Debian and F/OSS, after his death he had an indisputably _enormous_ worldwide influence upon Hackathons using F/OSS and arguably upon the burgeoning movement to make information as completely free/transparent as possible. D. Ilya Zhitomirskiy, R.I.P. On or around November 12th, 2011, Ilya Z passed away at age 22[12]. Ilya Z was co-founder of Diapora[13], the community-run, distributed social network completely based upon F/OSS. On a semi-Debian-related and personal note, I actually met Ilya Z in person less than five months prior to his suicide; before Stefano M's BALUG talk of June 21st, 2011 entitled 'Get to know the FreedomBox'[14]. Michael P's reference to Stefano M's role at the FreedomBox Foundation[15] _still_ mentions Debian's strong connection to the FreedomBox. (( ** As a mostly-unrelated aside, some super annoying things are currently going on with BALUG's mailing-list archives[16][17] and with SF-LUG.{org,com,info} domain registration/re-registration, as Michael P and Rick M are keenly aware of[18][19] ** To reiterate once more, I've read the caution cross-posted by Michael P and Rick M to the BAD thread shouted as 'ONLY POST TO THE LIST(S) ONE IS SUBSCRIBED TO...'[02], so I'm posting this particular message here, as I hope is most appropriate. )) References ============== [01]http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2015q4/011585.html [02]http://bad.debian.net/pipermail/bad/2016-January/thread.html [03]http://bad.debian.net/pipermail/bad/2015-December/003707.html [04]https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2015/dec/30/requiem-ian-murdock/ [05]http://www.zdnet.com/article/debian-linux-founder-ian-murdock-dies-at-42-cause-unknown/ [06]http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/12/31/prominent-programmer-dies-in-apparent-suicide-after-violent-encounter-with-san-francisco-police/ [07]http://bad.debian.net/pipermail/bad/2008-September/003279.html [08]http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2015q1/010682.html [09]http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=10115 [10]http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-activist-aaron-swartz-commits-suicide/ [11]http://fossforce.com/2013/06/aaron-swartz-dad-wants-justice-for-his-son/ [12]http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/13/diaspora-co-founder-ilya-zhitomirskiy-passes-away-at-21/ [13]https://diasporafoundation.org/ [14]http://bad.debian.net/pipermail/bad/2011-June/003458.html [15]http://freedomboxfoundation.org/ [16]http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-talk-balug.org/ [17]http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-announce-balug.org/ [18]http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-talk-balug.org/2016-January/ [19]http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2016q1/thread.html ============== -A -- Go Open Source Software Bears! _____________________________________________________________ Get your FREE, LinuxWaves.com Email Now! --> http://www.LinuxWaves.com Join Linux Discussions! --> http://Community.LinuxWaves.com From rick at linuxmafia.com Sun Jan 3 23:20:20 2016 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 23:20:20 -0800 Subject: Recap of Debian and F/OSS-related Deaths In-Reply-To: <20160103114303.975442E0@m0087797.ppops.net> References: <20160103114303.975442E0@m0087797.ppops.net> Message-ID: <20160104072020.GX27726@linuxmafia.com> Quoting GoOSSBears (acohen36 at linuxwaves.com): > I can attest that Ian M's presentation was certainly very-well > attended by many Debian and F/OSS people, having attended this myself. > IIRC and IMHO, during the general time-period of Ian M's speech here > in the Bay Area, Debian [GNU]/Linux was much less Ubuntified (~= > _heavily_ Ubuntu-influenced by Canonical Ltd and its > official/unofficial local "community" advocates at LUGs, installfests, > blogs,... etc) than afterwards up to the present. Aaron, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but what you call 'heavily Ubuntu-influenced' just means IMO a great deal of fairly insultingly obvious marketing noise for commercial firm (Canonical, Ltd.) and for a set of distros that does absolutely everything _way_ less wall, than, for example, Linux Mint does, even for extremely novice users. That firm and its one-true-religion cheerleaders have had, frankly, a pretty abysmal presence in the 'community'[1], and nobody who's been around the open source community for any significant amount of time has been fooled by this salesmanship with little substance behind it. Which, by the way, has gotten old. (I'm sure you didn't mean to step into this, I'm sure, but hey, you did.) [1] And don't get me started on the so-called 'Contributor License Agreement' and other special pleading for proprietary advantage. I could rant all day about insultingly obvious con-jobs by the SABDFL and other corporate mouthpieces. You wouldn't enjoy that, and neither would I. From itz at buug.org Tue Jan 5 08:41:11 2016 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 08:41:11 -0800 Subject: Recap of Debian and F/OSS-related Deaths In-Reply-To: <20160103114303.975442E0@m0087797.ppops.net> References: <20160103114303.975442E0@m0087797.ppops.net> Message-ID: <20160105163932.20917.2A19FF11@ahiker.mooo.com> On 2016-01-03 11:43 -0800, GoOSSBears wrote: > B. Eric P Scott (a.k.a. "EPS"), R.I.P. > > It was a bit less than one year ago that news of Eric S's death came > to us[08][09]. While Eric S wasn't as Internationally renown as was > Ian M, his death (Eric's) was in a certain sense felt much greater, as > IMHO he was _personally_ known to a great many of us local Bay Area > Debian and F/OSS people. Indeed, and wrapped in my little shell I didn't know about this. Rest in peace, Eric. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. From itz at buug.org Tue Jan 5 08:46:54 2016 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 08:46:54 -0800 Subject: Ubuntufication [Was: Recap of Debian and F/OSS-related Deaths] In-Reply-To: <20160104072020.GX27726@linuxmafia.com> References: <20160103114303.975442E0@m0087797.ppops.net> <20160104072020.GX27726@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20160105164148.20991.34BBF7FA@ahiker.mooo.com> On 2016-01-03 23:20 -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Aaron, you're certainly entitled to your opinion This slightly overused phrase has come to signal polite disagreement. Is that how you use, Rick? Your post seems to go on to agree with OSSBears, only more so ;-) I am waiting for the RH part of the rant, though. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. From lyz at princessleia.com Wed Jan 6 12:08:56 2016 From: lyz at princessleia.com (Elizabeth K. Joseph) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 12:08:56 -0800 Subject: SCALE14x: Debian Booth and UbuCon Summit in Pasadena Message-ID: Hi everyone, Back in November, Michael Paoli forwarded along[0] a request for volunteers for the Debian booth at the upcoming Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE)[1] happening down in Pasadena, California. SCALE is in a whole new venue this year to make more room for this event as it keeps growing. While it's obviously not near to the bay area, it is the only major open source conference that happens every year here in California and it's a lot of fun. It's coming up quickly, January 21-24th They have a great list of speakers[2], including keynotes from Cory Doctorow and Sarah Sharp. They have also continued their four day format, so the event lasts from Thursday through Sunday. Since I know there's some overlap with Debian folks who also use Ubuntu on this list, I wanted to let you know that personally, I've been working with the organizers of a big Ubuntu event being hosting called the UbuCon Summit[3]. It is a two day event, co-hosted with SCALE on Jan. 21 and 22 (Thursday and Friday). There will be some great talks, including Mark Shuttleworth as an opening keynote and talks from leaders from the Ubuntu community[4]. We will also have an Ubuntu booth for the 3 days that the SCALE expo hall is open (Friday - Sunday), where we will be showing off the new Ubuntu phones, and Ubuntu Orange Box and hopefully some Internet of Thing (IoT) devices. The UbuCon Summit is a FREE event that is open to anybody, but they do ask that you register[5] first so that we know how many attendees to expect. Registration for SCALE is also encouraged so you can visit the Debian booth, the Ubuntu booth and attend talks at the main SCALE conference all weekend. You can get a code for half off the $85 registration on the UbuCon Summit registration page[5]. Hope you can make it! [0] http://bad.debian.net/pipermail/bad/2015-November/003701.html [1] https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/ [2] https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/speakers [3] http://ubucon.org/en/events/ubucon-summit-us/ [4] http://ubucon.org/en/events/ubucon-summit-us/talks/ [5] http://ubucon.org/en/events/ubucon-summit-us/register/ -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 From lyz at princessleia.com Wed Jan 6 13:43:38 2016 From: lyz at princessleia.com (Elizabeth K. Joseph) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:43:38 -0800 Subject: SCALE14x: Debian Booth and UbuCon Summit in Pasadena In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Back in November, Michael Paoli forwarded along[0] a request for > volunteers for the Debian booth at the upcoming Southern California > Linux Expo (SCALE)[1] happening down in Pasadena, California. SCALE is > in a whole new venue this year to make more room for this event as it > keeps growing. While it's obviously not near to the bay area, it is > the only major open source conference that happens every year here in > California and it's a lot of fun. > > It's coming up quickly, January 21-24th I was also just informed[0] by Ilan Rabinovitch (SCALE conference chair) that there will also be running their annual key signing party if any Debian or Ubuntu developers need to get their PGP keys signed/expand their web of trust. I'll pass along more information when I figure out the details. Even more to look forward to! [0] https://twitter.com/irabinovitch/status/684845788153810945 -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 From lyz at princessleia.com Wed Jan 6 13:56:11 2016 From: lyz at princessleia.com (Elizabeth K. Joseph) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:56:11 -0800 Subject: SCALE14x: Debian Booth and UbuCon Summit in Pasadena In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote: > I was also just informed[0] by Ilan Rabinovitch (SCALE conference > chair) that there will also be running their annual key signing party > if any Debian or Ubuntu developers need to get their PGP keys > signed/expand their web of trust. I'll pass along more information > when I figure out the details. Here we go, it'll be on Saturday (Jan 23) night at 7PM, details: https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/pgp-key-signing-party -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 From aaronco36 at linuxwaves.com Thu Jan 7 13:36:26 2016 From: aaronco36 at linuxwaves.com (aaronco36) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 13:36:26 -0800 Subject: Recap of Debian and F/OSS-related Deaths Message-ID: <20160107133626.9757F647@m0087794.ppops.net> As an FYI, the Debian News site came out with its official 'Debian Project mourns the loss of Ian Murdock'[1] a couple of days ago. Note from within this statement that Debian community and Linux community condolences may be sent to 'in-memoriam-ian at debian dot org' and that this email address will be active until the end of January 2016. Previous full Recap of Debian and F/OSS-related Deaths at [2] -- -A Refs ===== [1] https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160105 [2] http://bad.debian.net/pipermail/bad/2016-January/003717.html _____________________________________________________________ Get your FREE, LinuxWaves.com Email Now! --> http://www.LinuxWaves.com Join Linux Discussions! --> http://Community.LinuxWaves.com From lyz at princessleia.com Fri Jan 8 17:12:29 2016 From: lyz at princessleia.com (Elizabeth K. Joseph) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 17:12:29 -0800 Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: BAD Meeting 7:10pm 2016-01-13 @ Henry's Hunan 110 Natoma, SF Message-ID: Hi everyone, It's been quite a month, I hope everyone is enjoying the new year so far. We'll be having a Bay Area Debian dinner in San Francisco next week, on Wednesday the 13th of January: Who: Anyone interested in Debian What: Bay Area Debian (BAD) meeting When: 2016-01-13 7:10pm - 'till whenever (they close at 9) Where: Henry's Hunan Restaurant, 110 Natoma St., San Francisco Why: To see each other in person and because we love Debian! references/notes/etc/: http://www.henryshunanrestaurant.com/ 110 Natoma Street (between New Montgomery & 2nd, Mission & Howard) San Francisco, CA 94105 1-415-546-4999 We'll have a BAD sign near our table with the Debian logo, as well as Jessie (cowgirl) and Stretch (purple octopus) toys on the table. I'll also bring along some stickers and Jessie notebooks to give away. For those that may wonder what to do with their time before the BAD meeting, there is also, preceding and quite nearby at the Starbucks at 201 3rd Street (note: different Starbucks than the usual venue): Ubuntu Hour San Francisco: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/3284-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/ -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Mon Jan 18 08:06:47 2016 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:06:47 -0800 Subject: BALUG: Tu 2016-01-19: Meeting!, & other BALUG News ... Message-ID: <20160118080647.7290611cs5qimhog@webmail.rawbw.com> BALUG: Tu 2016-01-19: Meeting!, & other BALUG News ... ------------------------------ items, details further below: BALUG meeting 2016-01-19 giveaways (CDs/DVDs, ...) help BALUG! :-) - volunteering, venue, ... Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/BALUG_org ------------------------------ For our 2016-01-19 BALUG meeting: At least presently we don't have a specific speaker/presentation lined up for this meeting, but that doesn't prevent us from having interesting and exciting meetings and discussions. Sometimes we also manage to secure/confirm a speaker too late for us to announce or fully publicize the speaker (that's happened at least twice in the past). Got questions, answers, and/or opinions? We typically have some expert(s) and/or relative expert(s) present to cover Linux and related topic areas. Want to hear some interesting discussions on LINUX and other topics? Show up at the meeting, and feel free to bring an agenda if you wish. Want to help ensure BALUG has speakers/presentations lined up for future meetings? Help refer speakers to us and/or volunteer to be one of the speaker coordinators. Great food and people, and interesting conversations to be had. So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP to: rsvp at balug.org **Why RSVP??** Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help BALUG and our venue plan for the meeting and accommodations, so please let us know. 6:30pm Tuesday, January 19th, 2016 2016-01-19 Henry's Hunan Restaurant 110 Natoma St. (between 2nd & New Montgomery) San Francisco, CA 94105-3704 1-415-546-4999 http://www.henryshunanrestaurant.com/ Easy Transit/Parking Access: short walk from BART, MUNI, parking Trip planning: http://www.511.org/ Delicious Hunan cuisine and reasonably priced. Meeting Details... Cost/Dining: The meetings are always free, but dinner is not (unless you are our guest speaker, in which case we also treat you to dinner). For Henry's Hunan Restaurant, if folks are agreeable, we'll share and dine "family" style, and split up the costs, and typical cost per person including tax and tip (but not including beverages beyond complementary tea) would be in the $13.00 to $17.50 range, and commonly around $15.00 to $16.50. Cash may be preferred to ease splitting up the check. One can also specifically order the dish(es) one needs/prefers (e.g. for dietary considerations) - and we also commonly order some dish(es) that may meet various dietary considerations) (e.g. vegetarian, non-pork, ...). Please arrive by 7:00 P.M., we expect to order entrees at that time, and may order appetizer(s) and/or soup(s) anytime after 6:30 P.M. ------------------------------ We typically have various giveaway items at BALUG meetings. We'll likely have at least the below plus additional items. CDs/DVDs/ISOs, etc. - have a peek here: http://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:cds_and_images_etc We may also be able to "burn" images per request or copy to USB flash, etc. Donations of blank or +-RW media, USB flash, or funding thereof, also appreciated. See the above URL for details (and the inventory (qty.) of what we specifically have "burned" and available on-hand does also frequently change). ------------------------------ help BALUG! :-) - volunteering, venue ... You can do useful and cool stuff volunteering to help BALUG, e.g. following up on many leads for possible venue, among many other possibilities. Quite a variety of opportunities to help BALUG. Come talk to us at a meeting and/or drop us a note at: balug-contact at balug.org These opportunities may include, among other possibilities: o venue arrangement (e.g. followup on potential leads on-site coordination/preparations), see also: http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2014-July/001504.html o chief/assistant cat herder o assist on speaker coordination/procurement, etc. o assist on publicity o Linux Systems Administration (e.g. do/assist/learn, with/under some quite experienced and skilled Linux systems administrators). o webmaster, assistant webmaster, designer, graphic artist o archivist/history/retrieval/etc. o and other various/miscellaneous tasks BALUG "ought" to be doing or would be good to do (feel free to suggest ideas!) ------------------------------ Twitter - you can also follow BALUG on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/BALUG_org ------------------------------ Feedback on our publicity/announcements (e.g. contacts or lists where we should get our information out that we're not presently reaching, or things we should do differently): publicity-feedback at balug.org ------------------------------