AFTER THE PARTY [was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Bay Area Debian Get-Together and Key-signing Party]

Tony Godshall togo@of.net
Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:35:10 -0700


I must be too much a debian and gpg newbie for youse guys.

Caveat: I answered this in a couple passes, so it might be a
tad non-linear.  Hope I'm not destroying the S/N ratio on this
list.  :(

[Evan]
> Sorry, I thought I had said this before.
> 
> The June 11th keyparty keyring is here:
> 
>   http://evan.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/bad-keyparty-13-jun.gpg
> 
> You can download that and import the new sigs like
> so:
> 
>   gpg --import /path/to/bad-keyparty-13-jun.gpg

Yes I did that.  Now what?  I'm done?  How do I verify?

[Drew]
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:27:16PM -0700, Tony Godshall wrote:
> > Q4: How to I check if my key has been signed according to
> > the keyservers?
> 
> gpg --keyserver name.of.keyserver --recv-keys YORKEYID

Hmmm.  Having some trougle with that one.  Just get messages
about no changes.  

Wait... This is what I was looking for!
  gpg --list-sigs --keyserver www.dtype.org
  gpg --list-sigs --keyserver keyring.debian.org

Ran Drew's script Seth's xargs command line before I found
this, so I don't know if it affected my results, but I have
signatures!  In fact, I seem to have signed Evan's key six 
times! (What does this mean?) 

Thank you Seth, Aaron, Evan, Drew, Colin, Mike, and Daniel 
for signing mine.

BTW, I seem to have had gpg defaulting to an old email address
(apgodshall@of.net) rather than togo@of.net (the one you bad guys 
signed).  Does this have any effect right now?  Did I sign
your keys with the wrong key?  Huh, not according to gpg
--list-sigs.

> > Q5: Which keyserver should I put in my ~/gnupg/options: the
> > pgp.net one or the debian one.  It only seems to check one
> > of them when I read mail in mutt.
> 
> I believe (biased, but probably true) that pgp.dtype.org
> (wwwkeys.us.pgp.net) is the best connected and most complete
> ring in the US, and one of the most connected few in the world.
> It is connected with SURFnet (nl), MIT, GATech (Peter Wan), and
> soon keyserver/certserver.pgp.com (NAI).

But doesn't that mean I would not verify against 
keyring.debian.org?  Or should I assume that every 
Debian developer also puts his key in the dtype.org/pgp.net
system.

> > Q6: (perhaps off-topic) Is there a procmail or fetchmail
> > recipe I can use to have gpg go fetch/check keys when the 
> > mail arrives on my system (occasionally it is annoying 
> > waiting for gpg to retreive keys when reading messages is 
> > sometimes annoying).  I've searched a bunch of mailling list
> > archives but all I seem to find are recipes to encrypt or
> > sign outgoing mail automatically.
 
> Use a fast keyserver and the delay should be minimal.

Most of the time it is.  But sometimes there's a network
hiccup and I hate to have to wait for some random net traffic 
jam when reading mail that I know is on my (!#$#!) local drive!

> If you want to pull new sigs from all the keys in your ring, try the
> following perl.

See, I'm so far behind you guys I don't even know what this
means :( .  I'm trying to see the relevancy to the question
above it.  Oooh I am sooo confuzed (picture me with a napkin 
tied to my head at four corners, Monty Python style) *my 
brain hurts*!  

OK.  This must be slight a topic change.  I think this 
'pull new sigs' means to bring the signatures to a local 
file (my default keyring?) for purposes of perusal (checking 
the signatures from the keysigning party etc.) but that it 
has nothing to do with the email prefetch question.  

OK, I ran it. Seems to be doing something significant.  I
found the --list-sigs option after I ran it, and assume the
info I got was due to the script or the 

Thanks all,

--
Tony

PS: Is anyone else concerned that people who have signed Mike's 
key seem to be disappearing?

pub  1024D/3B047084 1999-10-23 Mike Markley <madhack@madhack.com>
sig        3B047084 1999-10-26  Mike Markley <madhack@madhack.com>
sig        442E63C2 2000-04-07  [User id not found]
sig        F801008A 2000-04-11  [User id not found]
sig        5AAF6F59 2000-04-07  [User id not found]
sig        FD6645AB 2000-08-20  [User id not found]
sig        20021490 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        AE895899 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        D130D86E 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        0BEE6CFC 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        D330F08D 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        788A3F4C 2000-11-20  [User id not found]
sig        54C1C1C9 2000-12-04  [User id not found]
sig        7C25F775 2000-12-13  [User id not found]
sig        0167CA38 2001-06-14  Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org>
sig        700A0551 2001-06-14  Evan Prodromou (Securant Technologies, Inc.) <eprodromou@securant.com>
sig        66FBC18C 2001-06-14  M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>
sig        E0A38377 2001-06-22  Daniel Jacobowitz <dmj+@andrew.cmu.edu>
uid                            Mike Markley <mike@markley.org>
sig        3B047084 1999-10-23  Mike Markley <madhack@madhack.com>
sig        442E63C2 2000-04-07  [User id not found]
sig        F801008A 2000-04-11  [User id not found]
sig        5AAF6F59 2000-04-07  [User id not found]
sig        FD6645AB 2000-08-20  [User id not found]
sig        20021490 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        AE895899 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        D130D86E 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        0BEE6CFC 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        40D0DB58 2000-11-18  [User id not found]
sig        D330F08D 2000-11-19  [User id not found]
sig        788A3F4C 2000-11-20  [User id not found]
sig        54C1C1C9 2000-12-04  [User id not found]
sig        7C25F775 2000-12-13  [User id not found]
sig        0167CA38 2001-06-14  Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org>
sig        700A0551 2001-06-14  Evan Prodromou (Securant Technologies, Inc.) <eprodromou@securant.com>
sig        66FBC18C 2001-06-14  M. Drew Streib <dtype@dtype.org>
sig        E0A38377 2001-06-22  Daniel Jacobowitz <dmj+@andrew.cmu.edu>