Ok, Christoph Lameter is on board as well, so the final decision is: Thursday at 7 pm at VA in Sunnyvale, with me, Sean Perry, Ben Gertzfield, and Christoph Lameter. Christoph and Ben, the address is 1382 Bordeaux Drive, my phone number is 408-206-0615 if you need to contact me for any reason, and I'll make sure you can get into the building at 7. -- see shy jo