I saw some place that there was a seperate repository for GNOME for Debian it seems, but I can't find it now. I don't know if it would have a more current level of E and GNOME in it, but wanted to find out. I've got E 0.15.5 on Red Hat and 0.15.1 on Debian (I know my Debian was pulled from unstable). These versions are quite different in many ways. -- Alan DuBoff Software Orchestration, Inc.